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I’ve been a single mom for about a year now and I was curious to check out internet dating for the first time in 15years. But dear lord...
First I matched with this buff looking guy that looked ok. I chatted a bit but didn’t give too much info about myself to start with. He just wanted my first name and where I live, but it’s such a generic name in my country and my small town, that I didn’t think anything of it and gave (only) my first name.
Then it went a couple days. I didn’t go to the internet dating site as I was busy and just not feeling it.
Suddenly I get a message on Facebook messenger.
(H: Him, M: Me)
H: - Hi OP!
M: -Uh, hi. Do we know each other by any chance? (He has only a pic of ufc fighters as a profile pic and his name didn’t ring a bell. Just noticed we had a couple friends in common on FB).
H: - It’s me. From the dating site. This is my phone number xxx-xxxxxxx we can talk that way.
M: - Oh, well hi again. How did you find me? (Confused and really not into talking with this stranger who suddenly stalks me on messenger)
H: - I’m crafty. ;-) I love that you love my looks! (He said I looked good before and I replied that he seems nice. Never said I loved how he looked)
M: - In case you want me to add you to my friend list I have to say I’m sorry but I won’t take new people there that I haven’t at least met irl.
H: - Yeah, but can we talk on the phone?
M: - I can’t. I’m sick, my voice is nonexistent right now and my asthma pipe is my best friend.
H: - What did you mean when your profile said you are a bigger woman?
M: - That I’m overweight due to my medication. I’m 156cm and 115kg.
H: - Do you want to know a secret?
M: - um, well why not.
H: - I love really curvy women.
M: - Well I have a few too many, lol!
H: - Do you have like big thighs, big butt and wide hips?
H: - OP!
H: - Hey OP!
M: - Sorry, my kids came from school. I have to go help them with their homework.
H: - Can you send me a few pics?
I didn’t want to so I claimed I just transferred my photos into a computer and I haven’t got any right now. He didn’t like that and we went on for a while because he wanted photos and I didn’t want to send. My intuition said something was up.
H: - Well I don’t use my phone at all for dating purposes. But can you at least tell me what you looks like? Do you have big boobs?
M: - It’s sounds to me like you are more interested in my looks then who I am or what kind of person I am.
H: - Well you got to start somewhere. (Send a pic of him in only his boxers and socks)
H: - Are you divorced? If so for how long?
M: - Yeah, got roughly a year ago.
H: - Have you had any in intimate company since then?
M: - Uh, no.
H: - Well I don’t blame you for looking for company.
I explained that I have nerve damage and severe nerve pain and have trouble moving around. I explained that I’m not looking for sex, but trying my foot to see what kind of people there is on the site. Nothing more at this point.
H: - Well what are you looking for a man for then?
M: - A life partner. I’m not after a nurse if that’s what your suggesting.
H: - Well how can you be with a partner if you’re sick.
M: - As I said. I’m just looking if there is someone out there for me. I’m not looking for a hookup.
H- You interested in something else? You’ll probably not find life company but a good date.
M - I’m not looking for that and if I don’t find a life partner then I’ll be alone.
H: - Some women say they are looking for a life partner but they want sex. And don’t admit to it.
M - I’m not one of those women.
H: - if you someday become my wife. Can you keep me satisfied?
M: - It’s hard to say if I can make you satisfied as a wife as I’ve chatted to you only a couple of times. And it sounds to me you’re more looking for sex then for anything else. And as I said. I’m not interested in a hookup.
H: - Aren’t you sexual in nature at all? If you’re in a relationship with someone and that person isn’t into sex then you have to find sex from someone else.
M: - Dear lord. (Starting to get really frustrated) First comes meeting someone a few times and a relationship and seeing if there’s chemistry between the two people. After that its time to see if you work together in bed too.
H: - Yeah but can you keep me satisfied? Why did your guy dump you?
M: - That has nothing to do with this.
H: - I’m really into you. We can be buddies. ;-)
M: - You seem to have some weird focus on sex.
H: - What do you mean focus? I did say we can be buddies.
M: - There are other topics in the world to talk about other then sex.
H: - I’m not interested in a nun.
I had enough and I blocked him.
Is internet dating really like this?? 😅
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I got a Valve Index today and mostly came here to share some disappointment. I'm sure there are mistakes and possibly solutions to some of these problems as I've only had the device for less than 24hrs.
I've had a Rift for the last 3 years and was mostly happy with it except for the Facebook spying. Some issues with my Rift on a new PC and the announcement about the Facebook accounts being required soon pushed me over the edge to finally get an Index. I got lucky to get one so quickly. Whatever company represents them where I live their site said 6-8 week wait, sign up to be notified. I signed up and got a message 2 days later, "We got a new shipment. Order ASAP while supplies last". I ordered immediately and 2 days after that it arrived.
So, I unboxed it, set it up, started trying some stuff out. Hadn't really read any reviews in depth other than a general feeling that lots of them were saying it was the best of the current gen of VR devices. I did talk to a friend who has Rift, Quest, and an Index and he liked the Index controllers best but likes Quest in terms of just being able to use it immediately and no cables. I don't mind cables so much and further I want to play PC GPU based stuff, not mobile phone GPU stuff.
Anyway, since it just arrived and I've barely used it I'm already wondering if it was a mistake.
First thing, and I know I'm probably the only person in the world this affects, ... when I first set it up the hands were stuttering like crazy. After futzing with various things I finally figured out it was my infrared wireless headphones, or rather the base that is beaming out audio in infrared. This is disappointing as I pretty much always watch TV with the headphones so I don't annoy the neighbors (thin floors/thin walled apartment). I use infrared for 2 reasons. One, my stupid expensive Sony TV doesn't support bluetooth headphones even though it's running AndroidTV and has bluetooth!!! You can connect other bluetooth devices, just not headphones. No idea why they made that decision. The other is with infrared headphones you have one transmitter and as many sets of headphones as you want. I have 2 currently. I've had 4 in the past so more than one person can use them at the same time and/or switching is instant. If the batteries die just grab another. No need to switch output on the TV or re-pair bluetooth.
Anyway, shutting off the headphone base station fixed the hand stuttering issue with the Index but then later I tried to watch TV. I turned the headphone base station back on but there was a loud buzzing in the headphones from the Index Base Stations. In other words I have to turn them off in order to watch TV. That sounds like a minor friction but is it really? I'd pop on the Rift for 1 or 2 songs in rhythm games, then pop it off (because sweat) and watch some TV. Then back. etc.... The overhead of switching will likely make that stop. Maybe if I didn't have to dig behind bookshelves or under desks to turn them on/off.
Anyway, the first game I played was Portal Stories: VR. For some reason last night I replayed the original Portal (It's only like ~90mins to clear or less). While setting up the Index I was like "hmmm, they must have a VR version of Portal by now?" so I check the store and see "Portal Stories: VR" (free) and I'm thinking "How have I not already played this...... oh, no Rift version". Okay so I download and play. It's fine. Nothing special about playing on Index so it just feels like 6DOF VR, same as Rift.
I then played Synth Riders which I already had installed. It felt pretty much the same as Rift so that made me happy. I only picked it up in July and have been enjoying it although it's so sweat inducing I can only play 1 or at most 2 songs before I have to stop.
Then, I don't know if I'd call this my favorite game in VR but it is the game I've spent the most time playing and that's Audica. That right there will probably get me scorn. I know the mob says Beat Saber is it but even though I've spent several hours in Beat Saber I always come back to Audica. I've been playing for over a year and have 3-5 stars on expert level on every song and I was still playing 2-3 times a week, just 2-4 songs at a time.
Things that stick out compared to Rift.

  1. The gray levels are horrid on this Index. Maybe I can adjust them but Audica was not nearly as immersive at all without black. It feels like there's smoke or fog in the arena or like my eyes are steamed up.
    I actually noticed this on the SteamVR home when I first turned it on that the colors seemed washed out but it was really noticeable in Audica.
  2. The Index headphones that hover over the ears are the worst idea ever.
    There's multiple issues here. One is that it's just not as good sounding as closer headphones. Like basses are not as bassy. It's really horrible for music games. If you listen to music on headphones regularly you'll notice how the music doesn't sound remotely as good on these headphones. It's tinny and missing the fullness from headphones that touch the ear. I tried some $25 low-quality bluetooth in-ear buds and even at 25% volume they sound better and fuller, richer, than the Index ones at 100%.
    Another issue is that the sound bleeds into the room far more than Rift. There will be no playing any games at 3am with my thin walls with these headphones. I saw a thread that claimed the headphones are magic and don't bleed sound. I can only guess those people are deaf from too much thrash metal or dubstep haha. It's not remotely quiet. The thread I saw said they thought someone could sit in the same room and watch TV and not be distracted by the sounds. There is no way that's possible. If I put some music on my iPhone and set the volume to 20-25% and set the iPhone next to me on the chair, that's about the volume level. If someone was watching a sports game or something loud then maybe they wouldn't notice but if they were watching a drama or trying to listen to other music it would totally be distracting.
  3. The triggers on the controllers are super stiff and that's not so good for a rhythm game that requires squeezing rapidly to the music. I can see how this alone would make people who have an Index dislike Audica. For me though, given this is one of my favorites games it's really disappointing. I have no idea if I can open the controllers and adjust the tension to be like a 3rd of what it is or if that would help. It's possible I'd just get used to it.
  4. I'm not sure I'm sold on rechargeable batteries.
    This one is probably minor but if you want to play NOW or you're in the middle of a long session it's going to be no fun to be told "recharge your controllers". I've played several games 3-8 hours straight on the Rift. Different systems but those would include Farpoint(PSVR), Lone Echo(Rift), No Man's Sky(Rift), Astrobot(PSVR), Half Life: Alyx (Rift). Maybe a couple of others. The Rift controllers use a single AA battery each so if I run out it is just a moment to be back up and running. Playstation controllers are rechargeable but I have 4 of them so if one goes out I just grab another. And, they are on nice charging stations with those tiny USB dongle things so no plugs. I set them down and they're charging immediately. No having to fiddle with wires. I see someone at least thought this might be an issue as they sell a wrist mounted battery pack for the Index controllers.
  5. Having to manually turn on the controllers.
    This will sound silly and it is but it's one of those things you notice when you switch devices as it sticks out. With Rift the controllers just work. Pick them up and start interacting. With Index you have to press the power button on each stick and then wait a few seconds. The Rift controls would last for months on one battery so this is just a design issue. I have no idea how much juice the Index controllers use but they'd be better if they worked like the Rift controllers and just came on when used and turned off if they noticed they were not in use.
    Also did the controllers really need to make sound when turned on/off? Optionally make a sound? Ok. But I don't need more sounds coming from my devices. My phones all let me shut off the UI sounds and poweoff sounds. There's already an LED showing the power. There is absolutely no need for power on/off sounds.
  6. There is no "easy" way to completely turn off the chaperone boundaries.
    On Oculus inside VR you just click settings->guardian->off->confirm. Done. In SteamVR there is no off. There's just various forms of more or less intrusive. Searching the interwebs I find that I can manually edit some config file in a text editor. That's pretty lame. This is a setting I switch depending on the game.
    My setup at home is like this
    +----------+ +------------------+ | | | Books/TV/Etc | +----------+ +------------------+ | ............... | +---+...............+------------+ | | |...............|Coffee Table| | | D |...............+------------+ | | e |............... | | s | +-------------------+ | k | | | | +----------+ @ SOFA | +---+----------+-------------------+ 
    The area marked by dots is my chaperone / play area but I often sit on the sofa where the @ mark is. VR works fine there but it's not in my chaperone area so I want an easy way to turn off the boundary display and then turn it back on when I play an aggressive game so I don't put my hand through something. Manually editing a config file and re-starting Steam is not friendly at all and slow. Especially when the usual situation is, start steam, start steam vr, put on controllers, put on HMD, start game, only then realize you need to the boundaries on or off so then it's HMD off, controllers, of quit steam vr, launch editor, load file, edit setting, save file, start steam vr, put controllers back on, put HMD back on, start game. So as minor as it is it's not so minor if you actually need the feature.
So then at night I tried VaM. Yea I'm going to bring that up. I don't know if it's a dirty secret or a well known fact but I'm pretty sure 98% of all people that have VR at home watch adult content in one form or another.
So, … what can I say, more issues.
  1. One handed use is not so great.
    Suffice it to say, a controller you can easily pick up and use with one hand comes in handy. The Index controllers are arguably more awkward to use if one hand is busy, full, or dirty since they're designed to require two hands to put on.
  2. VAM controls suck
    This is a VAM issue more than an Index issue but, VAM has this control system where one thumbstick moves left/right/forward/back and the other thumbstick turns counterclockwise, clockwise, and goes up and down (height/elevation). Well, it doesn't take a lot of imagination to see those controls are not well thought out. If you're playing VAM then likely one hand is busy!!! You need everything to be controllable by one controller!!!! Fortunately on Oculus if you press and hold the thumbstick in then moving your hand in space any direction translates the camera so you can use that mode to do up/down/left/right/forward/back and further, rotating the controller rotates the view so you get all the controls with a single button, no need for sticks at all (which is 8 buttons lost!).
    Unfortunately for whatever reason VAM chose not to support the thumbsticks on Index which means if you want to use VAM for arguably it's intended purpose you keep having to juggle the 2 controllers with one hand. Generally you put one down and try to nudge the thumbstick without picking it up but still it's really annoying that you can't do it all from one controller.
  3. in VR Desktop compositing pales in comparison to Oculus.
    On Oculus you can pull up your desktop or any window on your desktop, or multiple windows and position them anywhere at almost any angle, pin them and they will stay put while you're playing a game. This is great for referencing help while stuck in some game, or pinning some communications window (chat, video, etc..) and for many games you can even get it to do depth testing. So for example, launch VAM, load a character, pull up your desktop, launch VLC, play a favorite scene, put it behind your character billboard size. Heck, play 4 movies in 4 windows behind your VAM characters.
    Apparently "OVR Toolkit" is a solution for this on Index though if I understand correctly it can't do the depth buffer thing which makes it far less useful for VAM.
  4. Just as non-private as Oculus?
    One thing I hated about Oculus is it records every app you run, probably reports it to facebook, and further, it adds it to your dashboard so next time you launch VR there's a giant "you recently played these adult games". Not so great for when you're showing VR to your mom, kids, visitors etc… I'm all for sex positiveness but come on! Some things are best kept private. I'm sure if you're LGBT and you have reasons to hide that fact you'd prefer if it wasn't so easy to be accidentally discovered.
    Well, I was hoping Index / SteamVR was better at this but it's just bad. As soon as I exited VaM there it is on my recent apps list..
    There's a law that it's illegal to share movie video rental records.
    That law ought to cover video games as well and it should be illegal for Apple, Facebook, Value, Sony, Google, Microsoft, etc to track that info without your permission. You should be able to opt out not just of making it public but of it being collected at all or arguably it should default off and you should have to explicitly opt in. And further, you should arguably be able to keep certain apps out of your recently used list. I suspect some reporter will have to publish some congress person's adult games history in order for the law to get extended to games and apps.
    Do SmartTVs have this issue? You watch some adult movie and you turn your TV on the next morning and there's "Santa rides Rudolph (XXX)" with graphic thumbnail of naked woman wearing a santa hat and naked man with a red ball on his nose on your TV for your children to see on the "recently watched" or "in progress" row of the TV's home screen.
    Fortunately it appears VaM doesn't stick around in the recent list but … this is also just an issue in general. Steam has a growing library of adult titles. There needs to be a way to not have your usage of them tracked, shared, etc...
Conclusion, TL;DR I'm feeling pretty strongly this Index was a mistake for me and I should probably just sell it ASAP while it still has value. I'm not saying it's bad, it's just not an obvious upgrade or a solution to my Rift issues. I'm not sure what "best in Index" VR games I should be looking forward to, so, if right now if I playing Audica is worse, if the headphones are worse meaning I need 3rd party headphones making it even more cumbersome, if I have constantly turn on and off the base stations, and if the VaM usage is also poor there isn't much point for me. It's not qualitatively better in any way I can tell except it's not owned by Facebook. I was hoping it would end up being a clear win but as it is, at least for my use cases, it seems to be mostly 1 step forward several steps back.
Not that I want to go back to Rift. There are reasons I took a risk and bought an Index. It's just I want a no-compromises device! (and a pony!)
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u/Anonymous Reader
“Losing connectivity is something a bit scary now for a lot of people because it is so ubiquitous”
Try getting a group of 20-somethings to all go out on a Friday night with no phones and watch the
mindfuck resistance that goes through their brains lol It’s funny because when I STARTED sarging
everyone would go out without that shit. It’s changed game dynamics…if you could isolate a girl in
the Mystery Method days, she would maybe do one lap to look for her friends to say goodbye and
then just assume they all went home. Now she’ll have a dozen txts saying “where are you??” lol
“Or pick a tune /artist to seed Pandora with and let someone else guide your thoughts”
Ya and I’m not even talking about just music. I’m talking about discussions and podcasts and shit,
like general internet content. I can throw on a Joe Rogan playlist for literally a week straight and
take in a ton of info and ideas but never actually sit down and make time to really process them or
reflect on them as I go on some quiet walk through a park because I have to catch more
Pokemonz!!!11 And now my friend is txting me!! And I have a new match on Tinder!!! Okay I
turned off my phone and met up with my friend but look he has a new match on Tinder!! And look
at his pokemons!!! And–and–
And I didn’t even HAVE a phone till my mid-20s, let alone a smartphone. But kids are getting
phones as early as 13 these days. I can’t even IMAGINE what school would have been like if we
had cell phones…it would have been another fucking world from socializing to cheating on
homework/tests to bullying/gossiping/peer pressure to public-wide embarrassment etc etc
“Say, I wonder how many people under 30 have ever texted while engaged in sexytime?”
lol…girls pull out their smartphone to answer their txts when we cuddle up after sex. I let them do it
because it doesn’t bother me and it’s funny to get a glimpse into their world and see their txt convos
with their girlfriends (and always an ego boost to see their GFs asking if we’re still going at it and
telling them they’re jealous etc lol) and their chodey orbiters, I’ll have them show me my Tinder
competition sometimes and just watch how/why they swipe Left/Right on guys etc It’s fascinating
to see into their world.
“And I’ve been pondering why – but I’ve studied enough MM and others to know. I don’t have a
routine canned that really spikes and DHVs. I leave it to chance and wing it.”
😦You got it.
This goes back to what I say when I talk about Naturals…Naturals are GREAT at what they do.
BUT, there are sticking points and weak spots in what they do. It’s hard for a Natural to use
anything canned (unless it’s telling the story of something amazing they did that they’ve told 1000
times lol), like to use a canned structure…so if they don’t get immediate good feedback they don’t
really have a gameplan (VS “ok, time for that cold-read that always makes girls feel X emotion”).
When you were young and in your prime and had amazing internal beliefs and subcomms and pussy
abundance etc you didn’t need as much of a gameplan because that shit would float you along in set.
But it’s powerful to have a few canned things where you KNOW you can spike Attraction or shift
the interaction toward a specific mood etc at the snap of your fingers. Like if an AMOG enters my
set I have a bunch of shit I can whip out that will get the girls laughing their asses off and fully
focused on me and blow the guy out because he doesn’t know what to do when they can’t stop
laughing and I just take a step to the side so the girls’ backs turn to him and dude is stuck standing
there as I spike their emotions and we all ignore him (his value sinking the more he stands there
without laughing)
“It’s funny how sitting here reviewing the approaches of the day makes clear what’s missing.”
This is why I push guys to do their Field Reports lol NOT doing Field Reports and only doing Brag
Reports is why the Manosphere and reddit TRP’ers make slow-ass progress compared to PUAs. It’s
like refusing to do homework…which is fine you can still pass, but if your goal is to get honors in
school this year, do your fucking homework and then do a little extra.
“@Ya – The road to this place has been quite painful and tumultuous. In a way, it’s been mostly
about becoming really self focused and greedier for what i want out of life. Shedding the negative
energy towards myself. Sure, I’m still a maniac, but I like being a maniac now, he he.”
lol good man. Your mindset a year ago was like “I don’t even know what I WANT and would feel
guilty expecting/wanting ANYTHING for my self” after years of providing for others. This is huge
progress internally. It’s a big unplugging for a guy to finally realize and accept that it’s OKAY to
“be selfish” and have desires and wants and needs and actively try to obtain those without worrying
about people pleasing along the way…which is probably what you did back when you were in your
prime slaying shit as an alpha. Till the FI got ahold of you.
“Pokemon Go circa 1959… what goes around comes around…”
lol hula hoop is making a comeback in the EDM/rave scene:
I know a handful of girls who think they look like these girls but COMPLETELY don’t, it’s the
funniest shit:
But you knew that, right? Now we have your crazes AND our crazes. And they’re worldwide
phenomenons using social media to ramp the hype train up and keep people obsessed (“I only have
X pokemons, but this guy in korea has 10x that!!” “this girl can at this festival I didn’t go to can do
this crazy hula hooping wow I want to do that!!” In the 60s that guy in Korea’s hula hoop skillz
would be unknown to you and if you didn’t go to that festival you maybe heard about her from a
friend if you had a friend who went or maybe saw a blurry black n white photo and a general text
description of her skillz).
Technology influences society. No idea how you can deny it. This girl made a video thinking she’s
going to directly talk to fucking Pharrell Williams and get herself on stage at Coachella…look how
CONFIDENT she is about it, she’s even cracking jokes and shit like it’s a done deal in her mind
that she’s going to get the attention of a AAA celebrity and get to go up on stage at this huge event:
“Pharrell – You…Me…on stage @ Coachella? Lets do this! Friends, family and fans…please tweet
this video to u/pharrell and use hashtag #coachellahappyhoopgirl Lets see if the power of social
media can get me on stage at Coachella! Please share!”
And the crazy thing is it could HAPPEN in 2016. It’s not even that much of a stretch for her to get
this. Having access to a smartphone and the internet has given her the chance at getting close to
AAA celebrities. She could fuck Pharrell and have his kids and have the life of a billionaire with
minimal effort, and if she doesn’t get him she’s on-stage for hundreds of thousands of rich good-
looking etc dudes to see her and contact her and try to court her, all they have to do is shoot her a
fucking Tweet or an Instagram message.
That wasn’t the same world that some small-town fangirl of the Beatles or Elvis lived in. If you
don’t understand how that kind of then EN MASSE can fuck with the dynamics of inter-gender
relationships in society, I don’t know what to tell you lol
But hey, don’t listen to me, listen to Blaximus, the guy YOU used as an example:
“Lol my brother. IMO, the ” games ” craze of the last 25 or so years if different than the crazes of
the past.”
“Man, just keep an eye out. Today isn’t hoola hoop territory by a long shot. Grown ass men playing
“This stuff is all relatively new, and it gets progressively worse very quickly.”
It’s funny how you keep focusing on me and not any of the other guys who are telling you you
don’t know what you’re talking about lol Lot safer that way tho, hey. Wouldn’t want to have to deal
with logic or anything.
“Every week at my job lately, I watch as HR struggles with disciplinary actions being levelled at the
throngs of mostly young workers who do everything from surfing porn on their phones, to gawking
at social media for hours and hours. Guidelines have mostly been blatantly ignored.”
lol ya, it’s insane. My buddy will txt me alllll fucking day at work, to complain about girls spending
all day gossiping. And he doesn’t see the irony. All I can think of is what it must be like to be the
boss of that place and you have an entire company putting in maybe 2 hours of actual solid work per
day…but you can’t fire any of the women or risk a lawsuit lol
The tradeoff is that they’ll toss you out the second they can replace you with someone cheaper or
more up to date on whatever technology the company uses or go bankrupt and everyone loses their
jobs randomly, VS the old days where I hear there was loyalty between a company and its
employees (work hard and you’ll have a job for life…of course NOW that only holds up if you can
stay out of the public eye and not have your career destroyed at the tail end by SJW mobs, hi
Shirtgate guy who landed a on a fucking comet you shouldn’t have worn that offensive shirt! Hi
Donglegate victims who were fired by the overly-offended SJW in front of them plastering their
faces across social media at a tech conference! Hi Tim Hunt who’s words were taken out of content
and he had to resign after the SJW mobs slandered him!).
But no, it’s TOTALLY the same now lol
u/Sentient u/scribblerg
“Teasing, aggressive cold reading, push / pull, throw in some compliance hoops, a little kino…. then
go with rapport stuff like “real conversations”…”
This. Moar A1-A3 before you go into C1.
“Who wants to go long on Pokemon Go…?”
Oh Pokemon Go will die in a few months. Probably as soon as the weather gets a little colder. But
there are about eleventeen billion Pokemon Go clones being made right now to replace it for the
people who love it and for everyone else a million other things (from new games and apps to new
podcasts and movies to new YouTube videos to new songs and bands to new dating sites etc etc etc
all available at the swipe of a button) will come out every month to help keep feeding their
dopamine urges. They don’t have to find a way to make having a pet rock be fun for a year…they
can buy a pet rock and then a dozen other pet rocks including the rare pet rock that they can post on
their instagram to make everyone else jealous, then lose interest in the whole thing in a week and
pick up on any of the other thousands of fads that their smartphones and media dangle in front of
their face.
But it’s TOTALLY the same as when you were a kid.
u/hank holiday
“Still working on that. Hard to get a job in the big city, but I am making calls.”
Good man. I’m more excited about this than you actually getting laid right now lol
“I just KNOW it. She’s up to something. So everything I say is about uncovering this”
Right, this is some cold-reading/roleplaying-ish combo and it works well so keep it up. But also
think about how to turn it sexual when you do it.
“Just having more things ping my radar now. Had that happen a few times at work.”
This is why I’m not pushing you too hard yet. You’re still learning what iois even LOOK like let
alone believing you get/deserve them. Now you can tell the difference between girls being interested
and not interested and friendly interested VS flirty interested etc which is all important calibration
to learn so that you know when to plow forward and when you recalibrate and try another angle.
Plus it’s hard to push all the way when you’re legitimately not attracted to the girls…when you get
to a new city around girls you won’t regret waking up beside, is when I’m going to push you harder
to focus on actually closing lol
And ya you can go back into set over and over. It’s fine. If she was your girlfriend you wouldn’t be
like “oh I already talked to her once when I was in the room earlier, I’d better not engage her again
or she’ll LOSE attraction for me” lol Because you know you have value to your girlfriend and that
she’s getting value by you engaging her. If I’m handing you a bag with a million dollars in it, I’m
not going to be like “oh I knocked on his door and he wasn’t super receptive and didn’t open it fully
and let me even really tell him about this bag of money…I guess I’d better not knock again because
then he won’t want this million dollars” lol In my mind I’m going to knock again until you realize
exactly the value I’m offering you because in my mind OBVIOUSLY you would LOVE for me to
knock again so I can give you this million dollars, you just don’t realize all the value I’m holding
(DHVing is like dangling the bag of money with a dollar sign on it in front of the peephole on their
door) lol
That doesn’t mean don’t calibrate, but like, don’t be afraid to re-engage a few times. If she’s
hostile/actively negative then ya, you can back off. But if she’s just lukewarm or plays along a bit
but doesn’t really instigate or anything or is just one word answers etc, feel free to give it another go
and try different stuff until you hit something that gets her to open up.
u/Sentient u/Hank
“You catching pokemon?” and thats it. Why WOULDN’T you use that. Lol, its so easy.”
A point to consider… this is an easy open but does not sexualize… I’ve had good success with
Phone Destroyer lines like “swiping left a lot huh…?” etc.”
Agreed on the sexualization thing. I’m using “Are you Tindering or catching Pokemon? ’cause I’m
going to judge you for doing either one in a bar.”
u/scray u/hank
“you are getting attraction from them, it’s just subtle and less “obvious” than you’re used to. you’ll
also notice that the windows of opportunity to escalate are narrower and the margin for error is
smaller, too.”
This. This is why taking newbies infield is so frustrating their first year lol They’re getting
attraction that to guys like us is neon flashing green lights 100% guaranteed lays lined up…but
they’ll eject the set and be like “I wonder if she liked me…she complimented my hair, so that’s an
ioi right?” Meanwhile the chick was ready to go home with him lol
Kenny Powers is epic. That’s basically how I walk into nightclubs lol Inside my head that’s what’s
happening even if the bar is completely empty or no one’s even looking at me and I’m just walking
in normal etc, just full delusion. Greatest Natural I’ve ever met was like this too, we used to watch
this show before going to the bars lol Highly recommend the show, Kenny Powers is like the
definition of frame control and delusional confidence.
“a girl glances over at me across the room for a second or two…i don’t treat it as ‘oh hmmm maybe
she’s….’ i treat as XXX-rated blatant hitting on me she’s desperate for my cock jesus christ slow
down i don’t want to wake up pregnant.”
lol ya, same. Hank will be like this too one day if he sticks at this. But first he’s gotta experience
these iois and learn how subtle they can be. It’s like that Mystery vid I linked where he’s talking
about girls playing with their hair and scratching their hand etc and the girl beside him is doing it
whenever he tools her and can’t stop herself…but it’s so subtle that most guys wouldn’t notice it in
the video unless they’re told to look for it, let alone notice it in real-time, let alone notice it in real-
time with a girl doing it for THEM.
“Nintendo has little to profit from outright insanity of Poke Go”
…lol wut? Nintendo is going to be rolling in money from the hype lol
“And no, u/YaReally I don’t play Pokemon Go. Don’t need to waste time on leisure pursuits.”
Whoops, I read “I went on a walk this evening with my wife Pokemonining” as that you’re
Pokemoning together, my bad.
“Instead of getting butt-hurt about the FI and whining about the mores of adolescent skill set 25 year
olds in night clubs and bars.”
I’m not butt-hurt about it. I’m pointing out the reality of what’s happening out there. That reality
happens to not be extremely positive. You interpret this as whining and butt-hurt because it makes
you sad to hear negative things and you would rather duck your head in the sand and cover your
Sorry but if we’re going to have honest conversations about parenting in 2016, I think guys should
be aware of the influences out there affecting their kids instead of acting like they’re all going to an
Amish church when they leave the house. CALL ME CRAZY.
“My rant has to do with a larger demographic. And the demographic of a lot of other lurkers and
readers on the blog here.”
I’m the one talking about vast changes across society that affect the average boy in today’s society.
You and Sentient are the ones digging out personal anecdotes of your family out in the middle of a
forest that doesn’t use technology and gangsta-wannabe dudes jumping around in front of cameras.
Most Red Pill guys are going to be working on handling their shit enough to be able to raise their
kids in at least a middle-class environment in a decent sized city with similar peers for their kids to
engage with, where they’re going to run into the shit I’m talking about. I don’t see a lot of push in
the Red Pill community to raise your kids in ghettos or move out to farms where you can control
every factor like you and Sentient.
“PUA and your target women”
Remember kids, PUA is only for chasing those drunk bar sluts!!! It has no other applications outside
of that.
“Nothing about red pill theory or masculine tactical virtues, or masculine self improvement other
that PUA skills. Nothing about old school Stoicism, wealth creation so you can kick back a little
halfway through the sixth decade, legacy, nice home, recreation, hobbies, reading fantastic books,
tribal socializing with guys.”
Other PUAs/Red Pill’ers cover that stuff better than me. But they also take into account the changes
happening in society instead of believing nothing has changed. New set of books has been written,
time to adapt.
“I’ll whine about 2% of your writing sure, when your talking trash and nihilism.”
I just point out a negative observable trend and the lack of incentives/reasons for it to turn around.
You interpreting that as “talking trash and nihilism” is your own “don’t tell me everything isn’t
perfect!!” baggage.
“Maybe stick to PUA advice. Instead of cultural prescriptive nihilism.”
Again the nihilistic aspect is your interpretation. I’m just reporting from the field. You’re doing the
same shit as when someone points out a statistic on race and the SJWs go “YOU’RE A RACIST
YOU’RE PROMOTING HATE!!” No, I’m just reporting observable trends. Don’t shoot the
messenger just ’cause you don’t like the message out there.
“(I.e. you don’t know shit about parenting 21 y.o. and beyond–one’s children don’t fall off a cliff
outside your grasp, no matter how shitty society is.)”
No, but I know a lot about fucking those 21yos who leave the nests of their family’s influence and
go off the rails, or were off the rails under their family’s care but were just really good at hiding it
while their parents thought they were raising a NAWALT unicorn.
So ya, I think my observations are a little bit relevant in a discussion about social influences on
children and how that can affect long-term parenting.
No one’s saying you’re a bad parent, I’m just saying society’s current influences are off the fucking
charts and if your kid moves across the country from you and makes a bunch of friends, they’re
going to be surrounded by those influences 24/7. How is that a controversial statement?
“Humans still have strong tendencies from DNA, epi-DNA and patterned behavior despite that rapid
changes and decline of old school norms.”
How is this any different from The Man harping on how we’re all hardwired to follow the golden
rule? Meanwhile we’ve got dudes driving a semi full of weapons through crowds of families
attending festivals and shit.
“And your PUA gathered intelligence infield is a lagging indicator.”
lol it’s the most up to date indicators possible to get. And we can make future predictions based off
the data we collect.
“You mean PUA infield actually predicted in 2006 that girls would become more flaky, more self
validated and more frenetic?”
If we had known smartphones would take off, ya we could have predicted that shit. Even back when
Facebook and online dating started picking up steam we were talking about how it would change
dynamics. Same with texting etc. No one saw technology coming in like a wrecking ball the way it
did but everything that’s happening makes perfect sense through PUA analysis (women feeling their
value is inflated from the thirsty attention etc etc).
“What do you predict for 10 years from now?”
I’d tell you but you’ll cry about how I’m being nihilistic and I’ll have to read another rant about my
u/scray u/SJF
“if my ‘kin’ bring value, great, i give it back. if they don’t, they can fuck off.”
This is my view. That’s how I handle my conversations here too. The only people I’m an asshole to
are the ones who are an asshole to me first. Except everyone loses their shit when I give back what
they throw at me lol Someone lectures me like a condescending dickhead so I give them the same
thing right back 10-fold and suddenly it’s “Why is YaReally so MEAAAAAN!! He’s such a
jerrrrrk!!!” It’s hilarious.
“maybe. maybe not. i know plenty of girls who have done shit their parents will NEVER know
about — runs the gamut from bad life phases with drugs, dudes, shit a stint as an escort or minor
porn star, sugar baby…like lol man….
this is typical manosphere ‘IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN TO ME IN CAMELOT’ thinking….and
maybe you’re right, idk…but you must conduct yourself as if it can and has already.”
This. I’m sure your guys’ daughters are perfectly well adjusted virgin angels and your boys are all
super jock alpha male badasses. But in a discussion providing men parenting advice, I’m not going
to tell them “don’t worry about it, just be stoic and optimistic and everything will work out perfect!
:)” I’m going to tell them “look this is what you’re up against out there” so they have a realistic
understanding of what it’s going to take to keep a kid on track long-term.
But hey, I’m an asshole for wanting men to be prepared because hearing this stuff makes some guys
sad. Just like Blue Pill people will call me an asshole for pointing out that girls like jerks because
they don’t wanna hear it. Okay I guess I’m an asshole then lol
“Any second any thing can happen. Doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t invest in actually doing more
than just one dimension.”
NO ONE IS SAYING YOU SHOULDN’T. We are saying that it’s important to be aware of the
realities out there.
“I used to pursue leisure pursuits until I got a real pursuit and passion.”
So we get to the real heart of the issue: people not doing what you want. Basically we have to live
like you or we’re one dimensional. You can live however you want, but when the rest of society is
chasing Pokemon Go, that’s going to have an effect on social conditioning for the masses even if
you manage to dodge the bullet because you’re a super badass. I’m getting at how do we help the
guys who aren’t super badasses living on farms like you and Sentient, how do we help the guys who
live in cities with kids who interact with peer groups that have smartphones at 13 and view Miley
Cyrus as a role model etc But god forbid anyone discuss anything that doesn’t directly relate to you.
Most people out by themselves wouldn’t have even talked to that guy you talked to.
That actually brings up another change in society I’ve noticed: when I go sit solo at a bar to have a
pint/food, if a younger dude is sitting at the bar, he’ll be engrossed in his phone or otherwise
keeping to himself. But if an older dude like a Blaximus is sitting there, in my peripheral vision I’ll
99% of the time catch them WANTING to engage the people around them. Like there’s a certain
body language to it where they’ll glance at everyone else or chuckle out loud to something on the
TV in front of us or sit angled a certain open way or SOMETHING where it’s like, you KNOW
they’re DYING to have a real human interaction/conversation because in their day that’s what
people DID sitting at the bar, you just talked to whoever was around you, but now that’s like a
foreign idea to a lot of this generation and we’ll just eat/drink in silence keeping to ourselves and
our phone lol
Actually one of our oldschool ways of encouraging guys to open was to tell them “be like that old
guy at the bar that just starts telling stories” lol Because that’s a classic stereotype we think is funny,
but really it comes from when things were, in terms of socializing, better in my opinion…back
when we didn’t have portable distraction devices. I’d imagine a bar before they had TVs or radios
would have been social as fuck and it would be normal to chat with people of different ages and
walks of life because they just happened to be beside you.
“Guess I’m done here … again. Yeah … Ya-Really … ya, really … you’re a fucking asshole.”
“I tried to offer a decent commentary here, from my situation with SBs”
Oh ya? You were trying to have a discussion were you? You came in here flipping the bird to
everyone and then in your follow-up you start with “I’m not reading any of your replies fuck you
guys”. Now you’re trying to paint history like you’re some fucking victim and I’m a big bully. You
didn’t want a discussion, don’t try to bullshit us. You wanted to come in and brag and swing your
dick around and then a girl hurt your feels and now you’re butthurt that someone called you out on
“you grow some balls and meet some real women in real life”
lol that was the last two nights. Tonight is Sunday.
“Yeah, real men pick up on that shit and realize you’re a fucking turd.”
lol why is it always the turdiest of men that call me a turd and think it’s going to sting?
“Truth is … YOU DON”T KNOW SHIT. Not about me, my situation or anyone else’s here.”
Truth is your situation isn’t unique or special. We all know guys like you, we’ve all met guys who
do the SD-SB thing and try to convince us they have a NAWALT unicorn and their relationship is
real and goes beyond the payments. That’s why you had more than just me telling you to try telling
your girl you don’t have anymore money. Because we know the relationship is a fantasy even if you
don’t. You want to believe you’re the exception to the rules, but you’re not. You’re the same as half
the RVF running off to thailand thinking their thailand girls are madly in love with them and
they’ve found a loophole and a way to rig the system.
“Letting some dudes tee off on others … ain’t right and just drives people away.”
Like I say, the guys who throw a fit about me teeing off on them are the guys who teed off on me or
the general forum first. If you think this assholish shit:
“I got sex, on demand, 72 times in a row with ZERO FLAKES. For all the doubters … YaReally …
I’m speaking to you … try that in the real world. Brad Pitt don’t get 72 times in a row with zero
“Haven’t pissed your life away learning to lie, deceive, manipulate and bullshit like a used car
salesman or a woman (ps, its called “game”) ?”
…was calm and reasonable discussion then just lol You tee off on me, literally calling my name out
in your rant about your fantasy SD-SB relationship, insult PUAs, game in general, talking shit to the
married guys, etc and then when I just return the favor you cry bully and play the victim? Are you a
woman? Don’t dish it out if you don’t want it served back.
“You want to drive away your audience by putting a two faced lying asshole like YaReally in charge
to drive the dynamic”
Nothing two-faced about me. If I think you’re a dick I won’t pretend I don’t…that’s the part you’re
mad about, isn’t it?
“and they will get married, and have kids, and divorce rape. That’s nothing new.”
Divorce rates have increased dramatically since no-fault divorce was created and technology
creating an entire ecosystem of support for women and slander for men in divorce situations, and
the limitless options women are handed by Tinder etc etc helps perpetuate it.
It’s not at ALL the same as the old days where a divorced woman was shamed and had limited men
to choose from. How the fuck is saying this controversial or debatable?? Am I in crazy land?
“According to ya, what has now changed for these guys, do you think they are no longer getting
Significantly less are, now that you can’t legally rape your wife and society will support her in
cuckolding you, I’d imagine.
“Do you think they are no longer having girlfriends?”
Sure they are. And those girlfriends are dealing with the insane societal pushes to do things like be
Sugar Babies, literally the topic of Rollo’s article. Again how the fuck is any of this controversial?
Where am I right now? A Blue Pill forum??
“Do you think they are no longer getting married?”
Hopefully they aren’t, but lots of them are because they’re still FI-conditioned to believe that True
Love will conquer all and marriage will fix their relationship problems, just show MORE
commitment, happy wife happy life, etc, etc Meanwhile society is telling their GFs/wives they don’t
need no man, and a woman should ride the cock carousel in her 20s just like Amy Schumer in her
latest movie where guys with 6-packs chase her and she rejects them for being too needy lolol high-
five grrrlfriend, and focus on your career instead of settling down omg you want to settle down
what are you a 1950s housewife don’t you care about yourself and your independence, and there’s
no such thing as the wall so drink and do drugs and party it up you’ll have the same attention at 41
as you have at 21, and here’s a thousand orbiters better looking than your boyfriend txting you
every week and hey Chris Hemsworth just Liked your Instagram photo you could get Chris
Hemsworth omg he even MESSAGED you what are you doing with that small-town guy?? Eat pray
love your way out of that marriage girlfriend just like in that Eat Pray Love movie, a world of Chris
Hemsworths is waiting for you, we all divorced our husbands and don’t want to feel like lonely
single losers so we need you to sabotage your relationship too so we can all have girls’ night
drinking wine and Tindering while we watch the trailer for Bad Moms that glamourizes being shitty
…but hey, don’t listen to me, I’m just some asshole that should be banned for bringing up
uncomfortable truths in a Red Pill forum so we can maybe figure out ways to help future men
overcome this stuff and raise their kids to navigate this world better. But fuck me, right?
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2020.08.06 11:50 Yaboi944 First date Friday, dropped her off Sunday morning, still got a very bad feeling (M/F, both 21):

I'm gonna go very, very, very in-depth in this, because I'd like to give you "all details required" for an "evaluation" of the situation. I'll tell you right now that my current plan is to hit her up on friday (tomorrow) and ask her if she is available on monday/tuesday. So here it goes, with a lot of details:
We "met" on Tinder, where we talked to each other for a day or so; then we didn't really chat for around a week, maybe five days, or something around that timespan, and I hit her up again. We had a nice conversation, lots of joking (since that's just how I am) and she seemed to be enjoying it to, so I got a bit "aggressive", but still playful (since I'm not a fan of a match/possible love-interest being restricted to just chatting) and basically gave her three options: 1) Meet up (soon) 2) Get her Insta/Number if she's comfortable with that or 3) That I'll move on, and that'd be okay too (I obviously formulated them differently than here, now). She said that she'll have to disappoint me then, and we'll move on, I said that I was fine with that, and that was that. But then she (and I, obviously) kept the conversation going, joking about how we'd get married soon, and other playful things, and before I knew it, we'd been chatting for around a couple of days. At some point I asked if we were any closer to meeting up, and she said yea, after her exams (which were like a week from then). Two or three days later she asked if I'm available this friday (31. July) and I said yes. So act 2. "The Date" begins
We met up at a previously mentioned location, then walked together to the restaurant, where we wanted to eat. I had before stated (like two days prior) that I wouldn't be paying on our first date, since that's a "rule" of mine, but after a bit of talking about different topics, I offered to pay for her drinks, should she want any (suggesting alcoholic beverages). So we went out, had a great evening, we each had 1 Longdrink, and 2 Beers/Apple Ciders (=not completely sober) and she offered to pay for my food aswell, and I paid the drinks (paid around 30bucks more than her). When we decided to leave, we talked about the busses she and I would have to take (different ones, since I live like 10min away, in a different town), and she was surpised, that there were still any going to my town, that "late" at night (around 23:30, 11:30PM). I asked what she would do if I were to miss my last bus, and she said she'd offer me a place to sleep, at her place. So I jokingly said that I'll miss it on purpose then, and she said okay. I enforced that "okay" of hers by saying "how about: no sex, but I'll come to your place, deal?" and she - I'd say happily - agreed. So we went to her busstop and I again asked her, if she really wanted me to come to her place, or if i should take my next bus (like 3min after hers), and she hugged me and said she wanted me to come over (Since she had previously mentioned twice that she "ususally doesn't do this - ever"; and I actually believe her, since she's/she seems to be a genuine person, and is very polite and respectful) Part 3: "Her Home"
We arrived at her home, blabla, fast forward a second, we laid in bed together, me only wearing my boxers, and her wearing "sleeping panties" and a slip for bottoms, and a top without a bra (obv). We cuddled for a while, talked, I could tell she was tired, and she was resting on my chest etc etc. I was scratching her; hair, back, neck, cheeks (face), stomach, legs.... then I tried to smoothly see where she'd "stop" me (jesus, typing this out sounds rapey). Touched her boobs - she didn't mind, at all. Kissed her neck, then she responded by kissing me - so we made out, and I played with her breasts. Did that for a bit, then i started moving my hand down her pants, and she also didn't mind, even taking her panties, aswell as her slip off to make it easier. So i fingered her for a while, pleasured her orally, but it was more of a tease, with me trying to get her to enjoy herself - but not wanting her to cum. I stopped after some time, we kissed a bunch, and then I told her that I like teasing. We talked for a pretty short time, and then she said "Well, you might aswell sleep with me now", conflicting with the point I made very clear from the start: No sex. I told her that I wouldn't sleep with her today, because I had given her, and myself for that matter, my word. She accepted it, and didn't seem annoyed, we continued our late night with the previously mentioned activites, but a lot more casual, and eventually went to sleep.
The next morning I woke up like an hour before her, didn't wake her though (at least not on purpose), and just went to the toilet once. When she woke up I scratched her for a while, we sleepily kissed (Imo all our kisses were "love-kisses" as oppossed to "lust-kisses" which I think can be split in these 2 categories). I knew she had to work that day (yes, saturday), so we didn't have unlimited time to chill in bed at her place. Even though I mentioned (not sure if it was saturday morning, or friday evening) that I had a date with a different girl on saturday, I offered to pick her up from work later that day, so we could spend the evening together, again (which meant I'd cancel my date with the other girl; whom I honestly wasn't feeling too excited about anyways). [She also told me (same time as i told her about my date on saturday) that she also has another date on tuesday, with a guy that bragged about "lasting two hours in bed" (we made fun of that, a lot, but also about me - since i didn't have sex with her, so "atleast he would")]. She agreed, and suggested we go back to my place that day, to which I agreed. So we took the bus together, then parted ways, saying goodbye with a hug, and telling each other we'd meet later. PS: This time SHE said from the get-go that she wouldn't have sex with me on the second date, because "if the first date was too early, one day later still is"; which is something I was completely fine with, and respected. Part 4: "The Second Date"
Came to her workplace, talked for a second with her coworker "Oh you're here to pick XXX up" (they're only like 3 people working there), and left with her. We casually talked a bit, went to my car, and I drove to my place. Showed her my living room etc (I live with my parents, but one room is in a different "house") and we laid on the couch till we ate (parents cooked). Ate, blablabla etc etc, were lying on the couch, listening to music, and we somehow talked about her date on tuesday, to which she said that she won't cancel on the guy (Objectively I'd say it truly is, because she is too polite, and she is bad at saying no, but subjectively: it hurt me quiet a bit, and I'm sure she noticed that). To the point of my saying (kind, sorta jokingly) that she should probably leave, but she'd have to take the bus. She said she'll leave, if I really want her to (which is basically what I did, on our first date, before getting onto her bus), which i then obviously denied. So she stayed with me. I jokingly suggested that she'd be a lot more comfortable, if she were to lose her bra, so she did. and I began touching her, trying to make her feel a bit uncomfortable (but was just joking) since I said that our date must've gone pretty well etc, if she usually doesn't "let" this happen early, but we're already at that stage for a second time, two days in a row. It worked, and she got the joke, but then also made it clear to me that she wouldn't want me to touch her privates at all, this day. I obviously tried a couple of times - without force, obviously - and she always stopped me, never getting annoyed though, was pretty playful. , we chilled, cuddled, listened to music, didn't talk that much - since she was very tired (like me, didn't sleep well at her place because of the stupidly hot weather, aswell as sleeping together - which made it a lot hotter; and she had to work that day), and kissed passionately. I suggested we go to bed, when she got very tired, and was basically napping on my couch already, so we brushed our teeth etc etc, and got into bed. We talked for like 5min, and then both were dead asleep, because we were very tired. Onto Part 5 "The next, and last (?) morning"
I again woke up first, didn't really do anything for a while, and then started scratching her (not sure if i woke her up with that, i was really gentle, and she "just took it" for like 15minutes, before actually showing signs of life). When she was pretty awake, but still very sleepy, (i think?) she initiated kissing, so we did. After a bit of sleepy-headed conversation and making out, i again went down her pants (this time she only slept in a slip, since i didn't have pants that fit her), and she let me. She "tried" to stop me after a little while, so I almost pulled my fingers out completely, and said that I'll stop, if that's what she wants; to which she responded with no, and that i should continue; so i did. 5-10minutes of me touching her, and kissing later, and she again suggested "we might aswell have sex now", breaking her own "promise" for the second date. I was "ok" with it, but said that she should (obviously joking) "do something, for her money" and that she'd have to ride me (since she didn't give me a handjob/blowjob/touch my dick, while I did a lot with her - which I'm also fine with). She didn't seem motivated. So i grabbed her, and basically put her on top of me, she liked it, and laid on my for a while, kissing, lightly talking. I pulled my pants down (she already did that with her slip) and wasn't even hard yet, which I - again jokingly (or at least i meant it to be) - mentioned (suggesting she did "that" little for me). She then told me, which in my opinion is quite intimate, that her last boyfriend left her because of "sex" (i didn't ask, what exactly that meant, but I can make a guess), and that that's a bit of a "burden" for her, and she hasn't forgotten about that. So I responded with hugger her tightly, and telling her that she won't have to stress - at all. That we'll take our time, no problem, and we'll be perfectly fine; that she won't have to think about sex. And I even said that "I wouldn't leave you, because of sex". So we didn't have sex on that morning either - which is honestly perfectly okay with me, so "sex" isn't really the issue on this post (in the next 2 parts the issue "arrises"). The days before I praised my - very roomy - shower, so i suggested we take a shower together, to feel fresh (since she told me saturday morning already, that she'd have to leave pretty early on sunday, to revisit her material for her exam on monday). So we showered, I drove her home, dropped her off. When she wanted to get out of my car, saying "bye" I said "Hey!" and lightly grabbed her shoulder, since I wanted to kiss her goodbye, which we did. After the "first" goodbye kiss, after which i was ready to drop her off, and had already turned my head from hers, she pulled my head back in, and gave me another, more intense kiss. We then parted ways. Part 6 "The days after, over text" incoming.
On monday I hit her up, asking how her exam went, she responded that it didn't go well, at all. I offered to cheer her up, since I had nothing to do that day (till the evening) anyways - which is what I also told her. She didn't really respond to my offer, stating that they'll (her, and her university-friends) go for some frustration food. I told her to have a good time, and enouraged her. I then asked her if she had any plans for wednesday (since today - monday, she obviously wasn't in a great mood, and tuesday she had a date with the other guy) and she said she doesn't know yet. I said alright, we'll definitely find time this week regardless, and no worries. To which she responded "surely"; and I made suggestions where we could go. She didn't like my choice of restaurant, which I then changed to something she was fine with (I basically said my plan was: That restaurant, chilling in the park, then going to her place). That same evening (monday), while i was out with friends, to distract myself from her, she told me that she'd "rather not always meet directly at each other's places", since we had "literally been on two dates". Which I understood, but was kinda suprised by, since I see/saw it as a "step backwards", which I also told her (to which she then responded, as mentioned, that we had only been on two dates so far). I accepted that, and told her to hit me up on wednesday, to tell me when she's available that week. Tuesday, at around 1PM, she told me that she's sorry, but she won't be available this week, since her best friend (who lives further away, which she already told me over tindefriday datenight) is coming to visit, and they'll be spending time alone, since she missed her (Btw no idea if that's before, or after the tuesday-dude date; since it's 1PM, I'm pretty sure it's before). I said that that was no problem, told them to have fun and enjoy themselves. Then also asked "next week then (?)" , with the bracketet questionmark suggesting that I wasn't sure if she'd want to meet again - in general. She said "next week is fine" with a blushing smiley, so I said alright then, and suggested we may go to a river, since the weather'll be a even hotter, to which she responded "sounds good". That's the last I've heard of her (which is obviously nothing extreme, and time-wise no need for "panic"). I checked her tinder profile tuesday and wednesday morning, and she had added a picture (she previously only had one), and added a couple lines (previously only had one short line) of text to her bio, that talked about her being able to "live out her intense feeling regarding love".
Sorry for the EXTREMELY long text, but I wanted to give a lot of details PS: She also told me that her previous boyfriends (I think there were two, but I didn't ask numbers) never told her "I love you" -> about which I once made a joke. She said something unfunny, and I was like "Well, starting to get why your last bfs didn't say that" - but I'm decently sure that she didn't take that to heart
PPS: She once told me that "living with your parents" is a dealbreaker; but that was on our first date - which i also jokingly said things about like "guess I'm pretty amazing then, to have changed that rule" etc, which she didn't deny.
>> END/TL:DR: We had two fantastic first two dates, she laughed a LOT, and had a LOT of fun. I could just tell. But her not being able to meet this week, not having sex (I'm starting to think, that I may have made a mistake, in not sleeping with her) aswell as having another date she didn't cancel, on top of the tinder bio change (yes, that one actually hurt me alot, since it talked about love) makes me feel really really uncertain, or rather - as a great friend of mine put it - "You'll never see that girl again"-type mood
Thank you all for reading (if anybody even does), and thank you even more for (possible) suggestions!
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Shortly after I moved, XXX revealed his fetish to me. He said he needed to have sex with me while I was asleep. I told him no, as I think that's just sick, and I am totally not comfortable with that at all. But he keeps on asking me. Just recently he’s started making sly comments about doing it anyway, or that maybe he’s done it already, as I would be asleep and not know one way or the other. This is really starting to make me feel ill. I’ve told him how I feel but it just doesn't change anything. Last time he said I was ungrateful because he’s let me move into his place and now I’m paying him back by criticising and complaining all the time. He just doesn't get it and I urgently need advice on what to do.
TL;DR; How do I make myself feel safe sleeping at night knowing what my partner might be doing to me?
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